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Governors Condemn Stimulus - Then Take Some

Conservative opposition to the stimulus is based on a belief that bailouts are the cure that kills. Conservatives believe that too many unemployment checks encourage laziness, and that the sooner a market is allowed to hit bottom, the faster it recovers.

Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina has made it clear he thinks the stimulus is a big mistake, and has threatened to refuse the money - or at least he WAS threatening. Now he's indicating that some of the money might be OK after all.

But should he indeed stick to his guns, his legislature (even though it's majority Republican!) is inclined to take the entire amount, allowing the governor to stand on principle even though he knows his theory will never be tested.

Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, most vocal of them all, has a majority Democratic legislature, so he can blame them if Louisiana is force-fed. Although he too is selectively principled when it comes to accepting federal stimulus help.

And in fact, all four refusenik governors (SC, TX, LA, AK) seem to be bracing themselves to be trampled senseless by their legislatures.

-- All because of a dumb provision added by Democrats who proved once again that they stink at political strategy.

"If funds provided to any state in any division of this act are not accepted for use by the governor, then acceptance by the state legislature, by means of the adoption of a concurrent resolution, shall be sufficient to provide funding to such state."

This allows state legislatures to override a stubborn governor who was desperately hoping his theories would be tested but who must now stand by helplessly, reduced to holding press conferences on how the turnaround would have been so much faster had we spent less.

Any real test of the conservative anti-stimulus theories is dead, thanks to that foolish override clause.

Funny that no governor spoke up during the debate to demand its removal!

And yet - if these governors really believed the stimulus was harmful, they wouldn't let a little clause stop them! They'd be on whistle stop tours around their states drumming up popular opposition - so that even their legislatures dare not accept the money.

They would explain that by refusing to be bailed out, their states would actually recover faster than the rest of the country.

That's what they would do - if they really believed it. I'm guessing they don't. -DR



  • Add A Comment

  • fencewalker wrote...
    Don't care what they think now..
    I'm really not on board with what the red's opinion is at this point. They've had a long long long time to work this one out either in theory or practical action. Nope, all they're doing now is shooting dum dum bullets at someone elses action item. The pathetic cowards approach. No guts as usual. Hit it and rhen run and hide. As a matter of fact, ANY one of our precious elected's thats been holding office for at least the last 4 years is guilty of sitting on their hands with their thumbs up their rectums while they sat and watched the economic tsunami heading into the beach. Thanks a lot all of you for looking the other way, hopeing it would hit the beach on someone elses watch while we all got broadsided. Sure , some of us may take the blame for not finishing high school, but YOU are the ones who seem to make it a point to attack the under educated and needy to make your political agendas stick. You really are limp wristed cowards. Why don't all of you simply stand up and tell us what you think of us and we'll return the favor, all in one forum. It'll never happen on talk radio thats for sure..
  • Dave K. wrote...
    Walking the walk
    I'll be keeping a very close eye on the red states as they are the true measure concerning the Republican position on the stimulus package.If these states take the money then Republicans are pro-stimulus package. Last I checked Sarah Palin is not saying "Thanks but no thanks." Forget how the Republican members in Congress voted, that was all just a political game.
  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Politicians saying one thing and doing the opposite?
    Unbelievable. This is a practice that goes back at least as far as the Roman senate, and will continue as long as we have politicians. Most politicians, Democrat or Republican, fear the unvarnished truth. Unvarnished truth isn't useful for becoming elected or re-elected. It's important to tell enough lies over a period of time that when running for office you can say (for example).."I fought tooth and nail against the stimulus package" to one group of voters and then "I attracted additional federal dollars to our state to assist in economic recovery" to another.
  • fourstringfuror wrote...
    Dave lecturing conservatives about principle is like a dog lecturing a fire hydrant about peeing in public
    You do realize that the provision to allow state legislatures to usurp the governor's authority is unconstitutional, right? You also realize that NO ONE - not even Congress - knew what was in the stimulus bill before they voted on it, right? Of course you don't. All you see is a chance to score some more points with your slavering fanboys. Since when do you care about conservative principles, anyway? You've been beating the drum for the bailout supporters from day one.
  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    re:fourstringfour..Conservatives not onboard with the bailouts?
    Odd. Seems that the Republican Party was very much in favor of the bailouts up until January 20, 2009. In fact, the first several hundred billion in bailouts was proposed, approved, and distributed by the Bush administration. John McCain, during a presidential campaign debate, proposed "reducing the prinicple balances of home mortgages to current market value." Oh, but that's right. What was I thinking? The current spin from Limbaugh Land is that "George W Bush wasn't a conservative!" I suppose that John McCain, who suspended his presidential campaign to fly back to DC and get the original bailout passed isn't a conservative, either? This week, on another portion of this same site, one of your fellows in conservative philosophy is pitching the idea that "George w Bush wasn't even a Republican!" (Ten points for originality, if nothing more)
  • fourstringfuror wrote...
    No dice, Chuck
    Neither Bush nor McCain are conservative. Republican, yes, but not conservative. You would do well to learn the difference. The bailouts started by the Bush administration were a terrible idea. McCain's mortgage adjustment idea was horrible. What's your point here? Are you trying to me both parties are full of bad ideas? If so, I'll agree. The Bush/McCain BS is old; when are you people going to learn some new tricks?
  • thenutsareoutandincontrol wrote...
    I applaud those governors
    who still have a sense of morality and ethics and refuse to burden the children and grandchildren of those in their states with debt up to their eyeballs so they can live under a tyrannical and dictatorial government.
  • paulha wrote...
    Another sad example...
    of how partisan Mr. Ross has become. Years ago I enjoyed his show for Dave's uncommon "common sense" but since that failed campaign in '04, he has moved further and further away from middle-road common sense and towards his chosen side. He, of course, is not alone in exclusively adopting one side or the other, but it's sad to see Dave's once-interesting opinions reduced to drum-beat propaganda, especially at a time when we need common ground more than even. Aside from that "early edition" bit at 7:40, I no longer listen to Mr. Ross. And from the limited replies to his blog, I don't think I'm alone in the dark...
  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    fourstringfour....so what party represents conservatism?
    We always hear "liberal" and "democrat" used synonymously, (especially by people who are neither liberal nor democrat), so using that same standard what political party represents conservatism? Seem to me that conservative voices were speaking up very loudly on behalf of Republican candidates in the last two presidential elections. Did McCain lose the support of conservatives the moment he lost the election? Is distancing the conservative movement from a disastrous presidency and a failed campaign a spin technique to try and save face, after the fact? Would conservatives be staunch supporters of McCain/Palin if that ticket had prevailed? GWB was propelled into office by folks who orchestrated the Project for the New American Century. (Check the web site, if you're not familiar with the group). If the names on that "statement of principles" aren't (or weren't)some of the brightest stars in the conservative firmament, I'll eat my hat.
  • Centerfire wrote...
    Thanks Chuck
    I forgot all about John McCain's stunt during the election. How is it that during the election Republicans all wanted to reduce the principle balances of home mortgages to current market values but they are doing nothing but bashing Obama for what he is doing, calling it a handout? I guess its ok when they do it.








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